diff --git a/nobilis b/nobilis
index 5ddd786..c04d211 160000
--- a/nobilis
+++ b/nobilis
@@ -1 +1 @@
-Subproject commit 5ddd7860b27ad0381cfa6b604afba4192604ef11
+Subproject commit c04d211b4439fd9d8d7b5bdf2c26368233d363ea
diff --git a/src/renderer/src/components/MessageRow.tsx b/src/renderer/src/components/MessageRow.tsx
index b8da5e0..bc5ee00 100644
--- a/src/renderer/src/components/MessageRow.tsx
+++ b/src/renderer/src/components/MessageRow.tsx
@@ -260,10 +260,14 @@ export function MessageRow({
         ] as MenuEntry[])
       : []),
     { label: 'Reply', icon: 'reply', onClick: () => reply() },
-    // Never hearing from them again, on every client this account uses -
-    // Matrix keeps the list on the account rather than in one window, which
-    // is the difference between blocking somebody and hiding them here.
-    ...(service === 'matrix' && !isSystem && !message.isOwn && message.senderId
+    // Never hearing from them again. What that costs differs by service and
+    // the daemon says which: Matrix keeps the list on the homeserver and
+    // Discord has a real block, so both hold on every client that account is
+    // signed in to; IRC, Kick and Sneedchat have nobody to tell, so it is
+    // this window's own refusal to show what still arrives. The entry is the
+    // same either way, because the person pressing it is asking the same
+    // thing - the toast is where the difference is said.
+    ...(!isSystem && !message.isOwn && message.from
       ? ([
           {
             label: `Ignore ${message.from}`,
@@ -271,7 +275,10 @@ export function MessageRow({
             danger: true,
             onClick: () => {
               const account = store.accountFor(bufferId)
-              if (account) store.setIgnored(account.id, message.senderId!, true)
+              // The protocol id where there is one, since a display name can
+              // be changed and reused; the name where there is not, which is
+              // all IRC ever has.
+              if (account) store.setIgnored(account.id, message.senderId || message.from, true)
             }
           }
         ] as MenuEntry[])
diff --git a/src/renderer/src/components/NickList.tsx b/src/renderer/src/components/NickList.tsx
index 761e8c7..8c5c5d7 100644
--- a/src/renderer/src/components/NickList.tsx
+++ b/src/renderer/src/components/NickList.tsx
@@ -256,6 +256,13 @@ export function NickList(): JSX.Element {
                     .catch((e: Error) => store.toast('error', e.message))
                 }}
                 onToggleBlock={toggleBlocked}
+                onIgnore={(ignored) => {
+                  if (!account) return
+                  // The protocol id where the service has one - a display
+                  // name can be changed and reused, and on IRC it is all
+                  // there is.
+                  store.setIgnored(account.id, member.userId || member.nick, ignored)
+                }}
                 onMention={() => store.startReply('', member.nick, '')}
                 onModerate={(action) => {
                   if (!buffer || !account) return
@@ -390,6 +397,8 @@ interface MemberRowProps {
   /** Which service this row belongs to, so an action is named as it acts. */
   service: string | undefined
   onToggleBlock: (key: string) => void
+  /** Tells the service, where the service has anything to be told. */
+  onIgnore: (ignored: boolean) => void
   onMention: () => void
   onModerate: (action: ModerationAction) => void
   /** Gives this member a role, or takes it away. Discord only. */
@@ -417,6 +426,7 @@ function MemberRow({
   service,
   onSetPower,
   onToggleBlock,
+  onIgnore,
   onMention,
   onModerate,
   onSetRole,
@@ -442,10 +452,21 @@ function MemberRow({
     ...(canWhisper ? ([{ label: 'Whisper', icon: 'lock', onClick: onWhisper }] as MenuEntry[]) : []),
     ...(canSendFile ? ([{ label: 'Send a file', icon: 'upload_file', onClick: onSendFile }] as MenuEntry[]) : []),
     { separator: true },
+    // Not hearing from them. This used to be a list in this window's own
+    // preferences, which hid the lines and nothing else: they still counted
+    // as unread, still notified, still went into the log. It goes to the
+    // daemon now, which tells Matrix and Discord - both of which have a real
+    // list of their own - and keeps one itself for the services that have
+    // none. The window-local list stays only as the thing that hides what is
+    // already on screen.
     {
-      label: blocked ? 'Unblock' : 'Block',
+      label: blocked ? `Stop ignoring ${member.nick}` : `Ignore ${member.nick}`,
       icon: blocked ? 'check_circle' : 'block',
-      onClick: () => onToggleBlock(blockKey)
+      danger: !blocked,
+      onClick: () => {
+        onToggleBlock(blockKey)
+        onIgnore(!blocked)
+      }
     },
     ...(perms.canMute
       ? ([{ label: 'Mute', icon: 'volume_off', onClick: () => onModerate('mute') }] as MenuEntry[])
diff --git a/src/renderer/src/state/store.ts b/src/renderer/src/state/store.ts
index c75076a..51da959 100644
--- a/src/renderer/src/state/store.ts
+++ b/src/renderer/src/state/store.ts
@@ -1667,10 +1667,17 @@ export class ChatStore {
    * travels to every client signed in, which is what blocking somebody
    * means, and it agrees with Element.
    */
-  setIgnored(accountId: string, userId: string, ignored: boolean): void {
+  setIgnored(accountId: string, target: string, ignored: boolean): void {
     void window.moho
-      .rpc('setMatrixIgnored', { accountId, userId, ignored })
-      .then(() => this.toast('info', ignored ? `Ignoring ${userId}` : `No longer ignoring ${userId}`))
+      .rpc<{ scope?: string }>('setIgnored', { accountId, target, ignored })
+      .then((answer) => {
+        // Where it holds is the part worth saying. On Matrix and Discord the
+        // service itself is told, so it holds everywhere that account is
+        // signed in; on IRC, Kick and Sneedchat there is nobody to tell, and
+        // this is moho refusing to show what still arrives.
+        const scope = answer?.scope === 'account' ? '' : ' here'
+        this.toast('info', ignored ? `Ignoring ${target}${scope}` : `No longer ignoring ${target}`)
+      })
       .catch((e: Error) => this.toast('error', e.message))
   }